4.4 light upgrade

[RoyN]

No stress shupack... It wasnt meant as a SHOUT just as a "making it clear"hehehe!

The comments the people made seemed to confuse things, and I just wanted to make sure no one got the impression that

1) the links would give them the upgraded look
or
2) that fitting xenon to the standard p38a required a manual, and problems with getting highbeam, etc, etc...

:cheers:

[Guest]

so the 2005 lights will fit on an older p38 (95-2002)?

[Stevemfr]

not without some serious adaptation. NOT a bolt in conversion.

Jeeez. This is wacky. A non-emotional topic like a headlight conversion unleashes more anger than all the rest of the threads in this forum including the one where the golden guy, after overheating his car repeatedly and destroying his engine, tells us all our beloved (why else would we be here?) cars are so-and-so-much crud. That was where I expected flames, etc, but everyone behaved quite well. Nice.

ITMA, duuuuude, take a valium, have a beer, and sit back and watch a cooking show on the tube. You're gonna have a coronary

[fat96range]

Well people let me tell you,ll how it,s going I started today at 6:30 PM I took my front bumpper & lights out and started cuting away at the radiator support then I had to cut the new headlight houseing then had to cut into the front fenders which are going to need bodywork . I,ll say this for now if you dont know how to rig stuff up this installation is not for you! I called it a day at 10:00 PM I have to go back to work at 6:30 AM so till next time I,ll keep you,ll posted!!

[ranger4]

Congratulations to Fat96Range for finishing the job -- we have posted the pictures on a new page on the main site at
http://rangerovers.net/rrupgrades/body/lightstomk3.html

Some of the pictures also appear below. I am really impressed about the professional appearance of the job!! The Grille Too!!





Fat96Range -- if you have time to write down some instructional detils on how you did the job, I am sure thre would be a great deal of interest!!

Many thanks for the great work

Cheers

John

[RoyN]

More pictures (of my conversion) can be found on this thread...

http://www.rangerovers.net/forum/viewto ... 9&start=15

fat96range, did you sort out your bi-xenon problem? I have some details in the thread about how I fixed mine...

it is working 100 percent like the 4.4 except I dont have headlight levelling (my truck never had that...)

[rrdude]

Great work f96 !!

Any chance of some close up pics and pics from the rear of lights to get an idea on how these were mounted ?

What body work is required ?

Like the grille too !!

Thanks

[ranger4]

Roy --

Thanks for the reminder about your conversion. I am sorry that I could never get your pictures to work on my computer, not sure if I am doing anything wrong!

If you can get them to display, or send some to me, I would ebe very glad to add your good input to the page on this topic. Also if you have any more information on how you achieved the conversion it would be really helpful for a lot of people!!

Cheers

John

[RoyN]

They seem to work for other people (?!)

can you try a trace to my server?

I'm emailing them to you anyways so you can post them if you wish.

Cheers!

[kassirie]

Have you wondered how come no one posts instructions as to how to convert the P38 headlights to the MK 111?
Well, the headlight just don't fit no matter what the modification, unless you are willing to cut into your fender, headlight frame and bumper and even then, it is not a surety. The turn lamp don't not blend where it overlaps with the fender... there is a gap. The headlamp has to sit on the bumper for the hood to close down enough and when it does, the contour of the fender to to lamp is out of whack.
I started doing mine with the help of a body shop and it was so bad, I had to stop before it got too far (but not beore they had done enough cutting into the metal rails of the headlamp housing and the plastic in the rear of the headlamp itself. All this trouble without having to worry about the electrical yet! The end result is so disgusting that those who have done it are so dismayed with what they see that they don't want to be bothered to talk about it!
Don't ruin a perfectly fine car with one that will look as if it is taped up.
A word for the wise is quite sufficient!

[RoyN]

1 post, bashing?

The only cutting in my case was a non-support section of metal, that was basically a vertical stop for the old lights. These lights are deeper and need that cut.

My LIGHTS were altered and then reclosed, like I have previously mentioned...

The turnlights have a very slight discrepancy... if you would like close up pics I can supply them for everyone, but dont be stupid to hear this guy out - why does everyone who did it say it looks kick-ass?

coming soon close-up pics...

Oh. and electrically it is perfect... xenon working, bi-xenon working, everything working fine, no faults... like I have stated 10 times my truck didnt have headlight levelling so this one is disabled...

I tried posting as many details as I could but it was done by an extremely talented body guy that I know and I prefered to let him work and he did it in his shop...

The lights dont rest on the bumper - at all - there is even a gap between the bumper and the lights.

I'm sorry if your body shop wasnt willing to go the extra mile, but come down to see my truck and oh well you'll be jealous :p

[noavgdrvr1]

Great job,

The car really looks great....

I have a feeling that some manufacture is working on an aftermarket headlight upgrade, which would be a direct fit. May be it will cost a little less than the factory lights as well.

But, until then You RULE.

[darrinturner]

I must say, they look good from a-far, but the are far from good!
What I mean by this is up close nothing flowes. The lights do not match up to anything else nor does the grill. I give an A for effort and a D for looks and ease

[kassirie]

Roy, where are them close-up pix you promised to post?

[ranger4]

I have now added Roy's pictures and description as available so far on the page at http://rangerovers.net/rrupgrades/body/lightstomk3.html

If anyone has more details we can add to the "instructions"!

Many thanks to all for the help

Cheers

John